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Post by RW on Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:11 pm

So Derren Brown is going to predict the lottery numbers this week and then reveal how he did it on Friday.

Anyone else intrigued? I quite like him and how he presents the tricks he does, and can reasonably come up with two ways to predict a lottery result - certainly two minutes before it's broadcast, but think that this is something I may turn over from the football to watch (unless we're battering the Croats)

What do we think?
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Post by StLedge on Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:40 pm

I would much rather know what they are now for the Euro Lottery on Friday
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Post by Guest on Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:07 pm

I can't see anyway that he can do it. Seems like a stunt to get people to watch his new series if anything but no doubt he will prove me wrong.

Fair enough manipulating people through his various techniques but he can't affect a machine. Unless it is some trick that he plays on all the viewers that makes them believe he has correctly guessed.

I would like to see his show where he claims to be able to immobilise me on my sofa. Not much of an achievement but i do normally have the ability to get up just choose not to use it

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Post by arover on Mon Sep 07, 2009 11:24 pm

Mmmm, course it's a trick.
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Post by Willy on Mon Sep 07, 2009 11:35 pm

RW wrote:but think that this is something I may turn over from the football to watch (unless we're battering the Croats)

Wales are playing Croatia?
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Post by RW on Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:08 am

Willy wrote:
RW wrote:but think that this is something I may turn over from the football to watch (unless we're battering the Croats)

Wales are playing Croatia?

You’re Welsh too?
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Re: Cheating at the Lottery

Post by Willy on Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:38 am

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Post by RW on Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:52 am

I'm only half Welsh, so it's England for football and Wales (but really England) for Rugby. Unless some big Cardiffian asks me who I'm supporting.
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Post by Guest on Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:59 am

This Derren Brown 'stunt' intrigues me. We all know he is an illusionist. He manipulates the minds of the audience to alter our usual process of logic. The lottery however, I wonder, how is he going to achieve this. It is not possible that he can accurately predict the outcome, and if he does, then it becomes something of a miraculous coincidence as well as something that will create a miraculous amount of suspicion. Channel 4 have apparently banned Brown from purchasing a ticket, and the actual prediction will go out just before the draw leaving not enough time for anyone to act upon his numbers. Brown says it could all go wrong, and potentially career destroying. There's something here that just does not add up for me though. Is this nothing more than an advertising campaign for Camelot?

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Post by Rover the Sea on Tue Sep 08, 2009 12:02 pm

If this could be pulled off, I reckon Paul Daniels would have done it years ago Smile Now HE's a magician!

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Post by RW on Tue Sep 08, 2009 12:15 pm

Paul Daniels was indeed very good.

There are two pretty obvious (for someone who does a bit of magic) ways to predict the lottery. Neither of which would allow him to purchase a ticket.

I'm definitely going to be watching this.

I suppose another way is to write all 14 million combinations down and secrete them on his person somewhere, and then remember where each of those pieces of paper is.
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Post by Rover the Sea on Tue Sep 08, 2009 12:18 pm

RW wrote:Paul Daniels was indeed very good.

There are two pretty obvious (for someone who does a bit of magic) ways to predict the lottery. Neither of which would allow him to purchase a ticket.

I'm definitely going to be watching this.

I suppose another way is to write all 14 million combinations down and secrete them on his person somewhere, and then remember where each of those pieces of paper is.

Now you've just gone and spoilt it for us all!! The Magic Circle will be out to get you now... Very Happy

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Post by rob_of_the_robots on Tue Sep 08, 2009 12:55 pm

Is he actually going to be doing it live?

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Post by StLedge on Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:00 pm

No Rob, he is going to be doing it the next day with a recording of the draw.......jinkies, I think I have figured it out.......
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Post by Willy on Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:00 pm

There's usually a delay of about ten minutes when he's done 'live' stuff before. The Russian Roulette one and another one he did (can't remember which, may have been the séance) were done with a delay, so chances are this one will be too.
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Post by Rover the Sea on Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:13 pm

StLedge wrote:No Rob, he is going to be doing it the next day with a recording of the draw.......jinkies, I think I have figured it out.......

jinkies, love it!

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Post by DodgyGambit on Tue Sep 08, 2009 2:54 pm

I wanna know when hes actually gonna do it, he must do it 5 mins before the draw and must be about 5 mins before the draw. Someone check the listings please, unless hes gonna be on the actual draw himself.

The best thing on TV ever was his russian roulette im sure every1 watching it thought, 'hes just fucked up' only to be disappointed that he didnt shoot himself.

BTW Derren Brown is only copying what i did ages ago when i correctly predicted th euro millions and told rob/rw the numbers but they were to stupid to play them.

Lets all predict 2moros numbers

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Re: Cheating at the Lottery

Post by RW on Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:44 pm

DodgyGambit wrote: he must do it 5 mins before the draw and must be about 5 mins before the draw. Someone

What does that actually mean?
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Re: Cheating at the Lottery

Post by Willy on Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:45 pm

Lol...good question.
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Post by DodgyGambit on Tue Sep 08, 2009 4:24 pm

im playing mind games with you all and its working
im playing mind games wid u all and its working
i play mind game wid u al n is workin

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Re: Cheating at the Lottery

Post by Guest on Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:45 pm

So then?

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Re: Cheating at the Lottery

Post by Roverdamus on Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:46 pm

How the fuck is that possible? Suspect
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Re: Cheating at the Lottery

Post by Guest on Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:54 pm

I wasn't watching the stand which I said to myself I was determined to do, did something happen with that?

I also had the lottery on another screen and sure I saw them numbers. Waiting for internet confirmation of the numbers though!!

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Post by Roverdamus on Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:56 pm

I wasn't watching the stand either, but surely if it was messed with, then someone must have noticed it so I'm pretty sure he didn't do it by messing around with the numbers on the stand.
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Post by Guest on Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:00 pm

Roverdamus wrote:I wasn't watching the stand either, but surely if it was messed with, then someone must have noticed it so I'm pretty sure he didn't do it by messing around with the numbers on the stand.

I know its obvious but on one of his other things a gorilla came on stage grabbed a banana or something and hardly anyone noticed. Don't think that was waht happened tonight though

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